From vitaly.osipov at gmail.com Tue May 25 01:41:10 2010 From: vitaly.osipov at gmail.com (Vitaly Osipov) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:41:10 +1000 Subject: [psysec] self-referential questions Message-ID: What are the psychological reasons :) for a list on this fascinating topic to have so little traffic? Is everyone interested to learn something but there is not much to share? Too few subscribers from the field of psychology, and everyone happens to be on the security side of the fence? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rosanna at ua.edu Thu May 27 01:48:40 2010 From: Rosanna at ua.edu (Rosanna Guadagno) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:48:40 -0500 Subject: [psysec] self-referential questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As one of the psychologists on the list, I think there may be too few of us but it may also be a function of the academic calendar. My school year just ended so things are slowly getting quieter. Quieter means I have more time to chat with people... I also think part of it is that I am not sure where to start in terms of discussions as I don't get much practice talking shop with non-psychologists. Anyways those are my 2 cents. But now that my year is winding down, I'd love to chat some more! Regards, Rosanna On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Vitaly Osipov wrote: > What are the psychological reasons :) for a list on this fascinating topic > to have so little traffic? > > Is everyone interested to learn something but there is not much to share? > > Too few subscribers from the field of psychology, and everyone happens to > be on the security side of the fence? > > > > _______________________________________________ > psysec mailing list > psysec at whitestar.linuxbox.org > http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/psysec > > -- Rosanna E. Guadagno, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Psychology University of Alabama P.O. Box 870348 Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35487-0348 Email: Rosanna at ua.edu Office: Gordon Palmer 164-A Phone: 205-348-7803 Fax: 205-348-8648 Web: http://osil.psy.ua.edu/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vitaly.osipov at gmail.com Fri May 28 03:07:17 2010 From: vitaly.osipov at gmail.com (Vitaly Osipov) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:07:17 +1000 Subject: [psysec] self-referential questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rosanna, It also could be that your interests as a researcher and our interests as practitioners are rather different. When I started looking into this, I came up with a list of areas where psychology is most visible in IT security Offensive- - Exploiting trust in social networks - Exploiting public opinion - Social Engineering in general - Scareware, phishing etc Defensive- - Writing policies that people read (partly inspired by this - http://www.mekabay.com/courses/industry/soc_psy_issa_baltimore.pdf ) - Making awareness training work - Communicating efficiently (this is a major problem in security profession :) ) - Buying and selling technology and services (avoiding FUD) and the related areas in psychology (or often pseudo-science) - some areas in social psychology - Influence and persuasion a-la Cialdini or others (I still need to read the article you did recently on Estonia) - Neuro-linguistic programming (more as a not-quite-scientific tool to be aware of that others are trying to use) - bits organisational psy, cognitive psy, transaction analysis, personality types I suspect a scientist might cringe at some of these, but this is what we get from more accessible sources. It would be great if you/we/anyone puts together a detailed list of psychology topics for a security *practitioner *to be aware of - around persuasion, trust, risk perception etc. This - http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/psysec.html is a good set of articles but it is a bit academic for my taste. Fascinating research, but few action points. Same with "Security and Human Behaviour" workshops. Vitaly On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Rosanna Guadagno wrote: > As one of the psychologists on the list, I think there may be too few of us > but it may also be a function of the academic calendar. My school year just > ended so things are slowly getting quieter. Quieter means I have more time > to chat with people... > > I also think part of it is that I am not sure where to start in terms of > discussions as I don't get much practice talking shop with > non-psychologists. > > Anyways those are my 2 cents. But now that my year is winding down, I'd > love to chat some more! > > Regards, > > Rosanna > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Vitaly Osipov wrote: > >> What are the psychological reasons :) for a list on this fascinating topic >> to have so little traffic? >> >> Is everyone interested to learn something but there is not much to share? >> >> Too few subscribers from the field of psychology, and everyone happens to >> be on the security side of the fence? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> psysec mailing list >> psysec at whitestar.linuxbox.org >> http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/psysec >> >> > > > -- > Rosanna E. Guadagno, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor > Department of Psychology > University of Alabama > P.O. Box 870348 > Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35487-0348 > > Email: Rosanna at ua.edu > Office: Gordon Palmer 164-A > Phone: 205-348-7803 > Fax: 205-348-8648 > > Web: http://osil.psy.ua.edu/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: