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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To the Points:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Actually Apple has largely abandoned DRM for music now and
Steve Jobs is on record opposing for music. He seems to like it for video
though which strikes me as just a little disingenuous given his Disney board
seat. For music DRM is largely dead except for subscription
services, purchased music from iTunes, Amazon, and others now largely comes DRM
free. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Actually DRM has little do to with the creator of media and
artists have been decidedly mixed on the topic. It is more of a Label
RIAA thing and goes to industry control. It has led to some really
bad practices like using Root Kits which resulted in a call to boycott
Sony. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The argument that it is working is questionable, pirating has
gone up and the image of the RIAA and the industry has declined.
The ex-head of the RIAA has actually come out against the practice now. Even
the engineer who created the concept of DRM is on record as being appalled at
how it is being used. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DRM has little to do with the artists as it is currently
implemented, they don’t have the control. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Because DRM simply doesn’t work, what it does is punish
those that are actually buying the music and benefit the pirates while
constraining what otherwise would be a very healthy home distribution and entertainment
industry. From a Macro view, since the introduction of DRM the
various electronic and media industry players have declined in profitability suggesting
a connection. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rob Enderle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Enderle Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Work: 408 272-8560<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 408 832-6326<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>FAX: 408 904-5274<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.enderlegroup.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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debate-bounces@whitestar.linuxbox.org
[mailto:debate-bounces@whitestar.linuxbox.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Imri
Goldberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> debate@whitestar.linuxbox.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [debate] Let's discuss DRM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Alan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Some wonderful points have been made, but I'm afraid Imri is
preaching to the choir here. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The points that Imri and Chris make are all quite good, and
I especially enjoyed Chris's anecdote about high cigarette taxes in Canada.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I would like to note that while personally I don't like DRM, the points above
are not my own, but Cory Doctorow. I would actually be more interested in
hearing good points for DRM rather than against it, as a way of educating
myself on the subject.<br>
<br>
I'll try to put up a few counter points I thought of:<br>
<br>
1. DRM doesn't work:<br>
Yes it does, see Apple and iTunes. Although Cory Doctorow detailed his bad
experience with it, I'm not sure it is the common case. If it was that bad,
people wouldn't have used it. <br>
<br>
2. DRM is bad for (society | business | artists):<br>
DRM allows a producer to limit how his work is distributed. From a libertarian
point of view, it's his work, and he is entitled to set any rules and
limitations he likes on its distribution. If he wants his song to play only on
full-moon nights, DRM allows him to do it. Even if you think it's bad for his
business, that's the producer's prerogative, not yours. <br>
If a producer doesn't wish to sell you his work, but license it so you can hear
it only once, why shouldn't he be able to do it?<br>
<br>
3. DRM is bad for business 2:<br>
Cory Doctorow's explanation on why it's bad for business is that it prevents
opening new markets. However, on the short term it seems that working with DRM
might be profitable, and depending on potential future markets is a risk.
Basically, Cory Doctorow says: "If you use DRM, you are hurting many future
businesses". The natural reply is: "Well, I care about *my* business
*today*".<br>
<br>
4. DRM is bad for the artist 2:<br>
Scott Adams makes an argument against copyright violations here: <br>
<a
href="http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/04/is_copyright_vi.html">http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/04/is_copyright_vi.html</a><br>
<br>
Why shouldn't he use DRM to limit people copying digitally released
ebooks?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Chris wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>1.
If I can play music I can record it. Worst case I can place microphones
in front of speakers and just record it all over again. A little bit of
technical knowledge and I can skip the actual speakers and microphones.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Of course, that severely reduces the quality of the recording. Quality DRM will
either prevent you from skipping the speakers & microphones, or at least
make it more costly than just buying the music.<br>
<br>
Rob wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In addition, my
DRM enabled player may not be compliant with the DRM release level of the
content requiring an upgrade that also requires a network connection. If
I don’t have a network I may not be able to enjoy the content even
once. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Well:<br>
1. If you want an upgrade, pay for it, and<br>
2. I think it is fair of the publishers to assume that you have a network
connection. Otherwise it would have been hard to send emails to debate@ :)<br>
<br>
Rob wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In my mind
there is something terribly wrong with a process that seems to criminalize a
protected group like children. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I don't really like arguments in the vein of "but who will think of the
children?!?". It may be easily argued that the criminalized entities are
the childrens' parents, who are responsible for their actions. <br>
<br>
Again, I'll be happy to read more arguments on both sides of this issue.<br
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Cheers,<br>
Imri<br>
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Imri Goldberg<br>
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