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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>You might feel different if that asteroid was heading towards You. ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>But I take your point, and would specify that Evil consists of harm to *intelligent* life, especially if directed by some other intelligence.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">"On a tool though, the question is can a tool be evil? For instance if I developed a Rape Tool, accepting Rape as evil, would the tool be evil or would I be evil for having developed it or would the person using it be evil? Is this even an “or’ question?"</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>Without going too far into details, the existence of a sadomasochistic subculture, and the rape fantasies that many women and some men have, would suggest that a "rape tool" might be considered desirable by some for fantasy play. Of course, the sadomasochistic subculture is also evidence that Torture is sometimes acceptable. However, there is a huge difference between consensual acts and torture committed upon an unwilling victim who is incapable of resisting.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>I was initially leery of defining torture as a tool, but in such a case it would be at least something like a tool, and it would not be evil.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>I still maintain, however, that use of torture against an unwilling person remains evil (and ineffective and counterproductive) in virtually all real world applications.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>Thanks for the link to Wikipedia. I followed one of the links within that article and discovered the intriguing views of Morgan Scott Peck. <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Scott_Peck">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Scott_Peck</A> His definition of an evil person reminds me some people I know. ;-)</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"><FONT color=#000000>Alan</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></div><br>
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